Former Secretary of State, Secretary of Treasury George Shultz
Former Fed Chairs
Alan Greenspan & Paul Volcker
Rep Francis Rooney R-FL
Democratic Presidential Candidate
|Carbon Fee and Dividend:
Impose a fee on carbon, and have the
government return the money equally
everybody in the form of a monthly dividend immediately, before the
politicians can get their grubby fingers on it. Revenue neutral.
Some Details of the Carbon
Fee and Dividend:
- Unlawful residents would be negatively impacted,
since they would face higher energy costs yet not
receive the dividend. However, by the same
argument, social security, medicare, medicaid, and
unemployment insurance should all be discontinued,
since unlawful residents pay taxes that support
those programs and don't receive the benefits. It is virtually impossible to
run any kind of decent society without
sometimes negatively impacting unlawful
residents. That's just a basic,
unavoidable fact of reality.
Current Action on Carbon Fee
- The carbon fee should be imposed at the
wellhead, or when fuel is imported.
- The dividend payments should be frequent,
perhaps monthly, because poor people who really
need the dividend to make ends meet in the face of
higher energy costs often can't wait a year for
- The fee should also be imposed on gases released
into the atmosphere as a side effect of
production, and it shouldn't just be a simple fee
on carbon, since some chemicals are more potent
greenhouse gases. So a severe fee should be
imposed on methane that is leaked into the
atmosphere without being burned in natural gas
drilling, since methane is much more potent than
CO2 as a green house gas.
- Duties (called border adjustments) should be
imposed on goods imported from countries that
aren't imposing similar carbon fees, to protect
American producers from unfair competition from
goods imported from countries that don't have such
fees. This gives other countries an incentive to
impose their own carbon fees, so they get the
money rather than our government getting the
money. This avoids the need for grandiose
international treaties that are nearly impossible
to get together and even harder to enforce.
- In practice, a few high-income people are emitting
far more GHG's per capita than the rest, so
others, which includes most voters, would be getting more
money back in the dividend than they would be
paying in higher energy costs, so they would come
out ahead, which would create a political
constituency to keep raising the fee until it is
high enough to motivate the desired reductions in
- The incentives provided by the carbon fee will
render a lot of legislation redundant and
unnecessary, so that regulations can be
moving decision making from bureaucracy and courts
to more efficient and optimal market-based
Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act
is a bill in the federal house of
representatives. Initially sponsored in the
last session by several Republicans and numerous
Democrats, it was re-sponsored in the current
session, and as of March 27, 2019 is co-sponsored
by a Republican and 25 Democrats, and gaining 2 or 3
more representatives every week.
Citizens' Climate Lobby is an organization
dedicated to bipartisan solutions to climate change.
They focus on many climate bills, particularly
Carbon Fee and Dividend.
Climate Leadership Council is a Republican
group with a plan very, very similar to the
EICDA, except that they don't have a bill in
congress, and their version exempts the fossil
fuel industry for legal liability for any fraud
they may have perpetrated by telling the public
that climate change is not real while internal
documents showed that they knew this wasn't the
case. The EICDA does not have
this exemption -- it leaves open the possibility
of legal action against fossil fuel companies.
- The idea of a carbon fee and dividend as the
right approach to solving climate change is
The endorsements above are for the
general concept of a carbon fee and dividend, and not
specifically the EICDA
or the Climate Leadership
Council's proposal. There are
other endorsements and editorials
supporting the idea.
- all living ex-Fed chairs
- 28 Nobel Laureate economists
- 15 former chairs of the Council of Economic
- 2 former treasury secretaries
- and 3623 other US economists.
Guilt and Virtue-Signaling:
We all just, as individuals, try to make
personal choices to reduce our ecological footprint. We
apply peer pressure to tell those who fail to do so
and tell them that
they are bad people, and try to
guilt and shame them into
This approach is very popular with eco-hippies. At a
typical hippie environmental meeting, there is a lot of
talk about personal sacrifices that people are making
as individuals to save the planet.
This can be effective for
For example, in the early 1960's, everybody littered and
thought nothing of it. Then, around 1970, we decided that
that was socially unacceptable. But there were also laws
passed against littering around that time. And part of
the effort was making litter baskets available
There are a number of problems with trying to solve
global warming through this means:
American society is much worse fractured into
warring tribes than it was in 1970. If
one group applies peer pressure to do something, other
groups will automatically react against
it. For example, we couldn't even get everybody to
wear masks on airplanes during the pandemic.
The amount of sacrifice needed for someone to bring
their carbon emissions to zero
right now, with
current technology, is mind-boggling. It's basically
unachievable. Faced with a challenge like that, many
people will conclude that it's not feasible to lead
an ethical life, give up completely, and
utter depravity will result.
Conservative Form of Carbon Tax:
Impose a fee on carbon, and have the
government return all the money to the public in tax
cuts, thus avoiding growth of the public sector. Revenue Neutral
- Ideally, it should be a federal carbon fee, and
there is no federal sales tax, so it can't be
returned in a sales tax cut. The cuts would
have to be to corporate or income taxes.
- The bottom 50% of the population pay almost no
income tax, so they would get practically no tax
relief, yet they would face higher energy costs
without any help meeting those costs. So this
effort would be a massive redistribution of wealth
from the poor to the rich, which the left would
never cooperate with. And it is just generally
politically infeasible to impose a scheme which
would result in such a major hardship for such a
large share of the voters.
||Cap and Trade:
Issue "carbon credits" to factories, or to
countries, or auction them off to the highest bidder, where
a carbon credit is permission to emit a certain amount of
greenhouse gases. This has been tried many times with
varying success. Over time, the total amount of credits
is reduced as emitters clean up their act.
Sometimes the carbon credits are issued to polluters (be
they factories, or countries) according to how much they
were emitting before the scheme began.
If an emitter is able to reduce emissions, they may
surplus of carbon credits that
they can sell to make money. If
an emitter increases emissions, they need to find someone
that they can buy credits from. So everyone has an
incentive to reduce emissions.
There have been cases where companies go bankrupt and
shut their doors, but keep alive a shell company to receive
their carbon credits, which they then sell.
John McCain had cap and trade as part of his campaign
platform when he ran for president in 2008.
If the carbon credits are just arbitrarily given to
companies, they become an arbitrary windfall and
reward for past bad behavior. If they are auctioned
off by the government, that can just amount to an
tax funding the growth of the public sector.
Most observers today agree that a carbon fee or tax is
a better approach than cap and trade.
- It is hard to predict the future demand for carbon
credits, and thus hard to predict their future price,
which makes it difficult for emitters to
- The scheme is hard to tweak right, and can completely
fail. Europe has a cap and trade scheme which basically
failed -- emissions turned out to be lower than expected,
and the price of a carbon credit dropped so low that it
failed to provide the desired incentive. And a scheme
can fail in the opposite direction, where the price of
a carbon credit rises so high that it strangles the
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez D-NY
|Far-Left Solution: AOC's "Green New Deal"
The "Green New Deal"
is covered on its own page.
Republican Trial Balloon:
"A Trillion Trees"
The Republican "Trillion Trees" idea
covered on its own page.
Form of Carbon Tax:
Impose a fee on carbon, and use the revenue for
deficit reduction and to fund carbon-saving activity
such as public transport, renewable
energy, and a better long-distance power grid. Often,
they go so far as to say that some of the money should
go to ends completely unrelated to climate change,
just a laundry list of things the left would spend a
- The right will never,
ever buy into this, because
it grows the government. And with the advent of
Uber-type transport based on self-driving cars,
it's not clear that traditional public transport
will be the most desirable way to organize our
- Also, there will be inflation in the price of
energy-intensive goods and services due to the
carbon tax, and poor people will have difficulty
making ends meet.
- To eventually meet the desired reductions in
carbon emissions a decade or two down the line,
the tax will have to grow to several dollars per
gallon of gasoline (several hundred dollars per
ton of CO2). It would be impossible to pass such
a high tax as the first step, even if Democrats
had a filibuster-proof majority in congress. It
needs to start low and gradually be raised.
If, when the tax is introduced at much
lower levels, the money is not returned to citizens,
people will view it as a burden and there will never
be a political constituency behind eventually raising
it sufficiently for it to achieve the desired
reduction in emissions.
Rep. Matt Gaetz R-FL
|Republican "Green Real Deal":
Asserts that global warming is
a serious problem warranting action.
Text of Resolution
Speaks about encouraging investment, but utterly vage
about exactly how the desired investment
is to be encouraged.
Advocates nuclear energy and carbon
capture & sequestration,
which the AOC/Sunrise Green New Deal does not.
Most of the actions advocated are in the form of
deregulation and tax cuts.
In contrast to the Green New Deal, it is actually
entirely focused on climate change.
- Lacks credibility in that it fails to mention
any means whatsoever of discouraging
people from burning as much
fossil fuel as they want.
Vice President Joe Biden
Democratic Presidential Candidate
|Joe Biden's Plan:
Less detail than Jay Inslee's plan. No mention of a
- Aim for a 100% carbon-free economy by 2050 via "an
enforcement mechanism" whatever that means.
- Invest in energy & climate research.
- "If Congress falls short of its duty to act, Biden
will hold them accountable.". He really said that.
Like, what's he going to do -- spank them?
- Aggressive limits on methane leakage from oil & gas
- Enhance fuel economy standards to get 100% of new light
and medium vehicles electric.
- Enhance building & appliance energy efficiency
- Requiring public companies to disclose GHG
- Ban drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge.
- Some reduce the carbon footprint of existing buildings
by 50%. It will take a lot of work and a lot of money
to do that, he's not clear who's going to pay for
- Restore tax credits for electric cars, subsidize the
creation of more charging stations for them.
- Somehow mitigate urban sprawl so that people will have
- Somehow subsidize manufacturing
- Subsidize more development of railroads, both
passenger and freight
- Rejoin the Paris Agreement and seek to organize more
- "Name and shame" high emissions countries (cough,
cough -- right now, that's us!)
- Organize a worldwide ban on fossil fuel subsidies
- Help the former coal mining communities.
Biden will invest in research to develop:
- small modular nuclear
reactors and other new nuclear
- eliminate GHG's from refrigerators and air
- "zero net energy buildings at zero cost" -- I have
no idea what that
- use renewables to make hydrogen more cheaply than by
producing it from fossil fuels
- decarbonize the process of making steel and
- decarbonize agriculture
- develop agricultural techniques to sequester
- develop carbon capture & sequestration
- low-carbon aviation
Joe Biden's climate website
Overall, this is well-focused on climate change without
getting sidetracked like the "Green New Deal" or Jay
Inslee's plan. I would have liked to see a carbon tax
and less focus on doing everything through the public
sector. It's good that nuclear is included.
Democratic Governor of Washington
|Jay Inslee's "Evergreen Economy":
Climate change is the top priority of
Democratic candidate Jay Inslee.
Lots and lots of details:
A publicly funded "Green Bank" (why?) -- increasing tax
incentives for renewable energy (why not just penalize
carbon?) -- goals for use of renewable energy by federal
agencies -- involve the government in building up charging
stations for electric cars (why?) -- federal investment
in public transport -- federal investment in transitioning
to a smart electrical grid -- "clean cars for clunkers"
program -- federal "Buy Clean" program where the government
somehow assesses GHG emissions involved in everything it
buys -- crack down on "super-pollutants": HFC's & CH4 --
make industry lower emissions -- work through international
trade, financial organization to promote emissions
reductions abroad -- somehow penalize other countries
that aren't making an effort -- fund research into
climate-relevant technologies -- fund research into
agricultural carbon capture -- fund climate research
Federal assistance to suffering former coal mining
Website doesn't mention nuclear either way, but Inslee
told Bill Maher that he wasn't ruling it out.
Website doesn't mention a carbon tax.
Jay Inslee's climate website
- Lots and lots of talk about labor:
- banning "right to work" laws
- eliminating the secret ballot when organizing
unions, leaving workers who don't want unions vulnerable to
physical intimidation by union organizers, who are often
members of organized crime
- requirements that all the "green jobs" be done by
- enhancing labor laws to give all workers,
not just union ones, more rights
- A "federal clean energy wage" that "averages" $25 an
- A federal minimum wage of $15 an hour by 2024, pegged
to the median wage after that. (Why track median
wage??? Why not inflation?)
- Clean water.
- Federal support for vocational training programs.
- STEM education.
- 29 states have passed right-to-work laws. What makes
Inslee think the people in those states will like being
federally forced to repeal them? What makes him think
workers will like giving up the right to a secret
ballot in union drives?
- Mandates many decisions to be made by the federal
government that would be more rationally and
efficiently made in the market. Has many, many actions
being done by the public sector that don't need to